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Villar, following the departure of a UEFA executive committee in Basel. FABRICE COFFRINI AFP / Getty Images
The Spanish Football Federation receives payments from the Chinese representative company United Vansen International through a Dutch team of its own, the ADO of The Hague. The strange monetary maneuver was detected by the Central Operative Unit (UCO) of the Civil Guard in several recorded conversations between the economic vice-president Juan Padrón, the president of the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE), Alejandro Blanco, María Padrón, daughter of the working director in the federative Foundation, and the secretary of the territorial region of Tenerife Ramón Hernández Baussou. According to the talks, the contract signed between the ETF and the Chinese company would be valued at 1,250,000 euros broken down into four years extendable to one more. United Vansen acquired the ADO of The Hague in 2014 and is governed by Chinese representative Wang Hui. This one was received by Angel Maria Villar in the federative seat in April of 2014, according to news published in the federative web and in which Hui is presented like exclusive agent of the Federation in China and part of Asia.
The first conversation, included in the summary of the Villar case, is of May 10, 2017 and happens between Juan Padrón and Ramón Baussou.
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Juan Padron: ... because tomorrow the Chinese arrive ... and ... how important ... we are with a million dollars ... that is already ... they are going to send the five hundred thousand through Holland because they can not take them out if it is not with a Dutch team.
Ramon Baussou: [Laughs].
JP: Yes ... five hundred thousand now and five hundred thousand later, but it`s already signed.
In that same conversation, Padrón, who is already aware that Villar will withdraw his trust as economic vice president, tells Bassou that he will go to the office to break papers and collect. In relation to this conversation, the researchers consider in their report that "it is considered strange in the first place that the money has to be transferred through a Dutch team".
The next call is May 16, 2017 and the interlocutors are Juan Padrón and Alejandro Blanco.
Juan Padrón: ... it was important the visit of these Chinese because ... we already took 300,000 euros from the exclusive and now a new one has been signed ... my daughter arguing with them, before they were 100,000 a year and now she took him out 250,000 per year (laughs).
Alejandro Blanco: cunt, very well ...
JP: four years is a million and a year more than 250,000 extension ... already signed a contract ... was ... to see when the money came, but also there the Chinese pa to let the money, put more stick to everything
AB: Man, of course, man, of course ...
JP: ... that they have bought a team in Holland ... and they are going to divert already ... to pay it through Holland and others, right?
AB: Well ...
JP: It was very interesting to say that because ... the Chinese are as they are, it`s tremendous, they do not have a stupid hair, but fuck it ...
AB: [Laughs].
JP: yes, yes ...
AB: The Chinese are very clever, very clever ...
JP: Síiiiiiii ... that already signed the contract, already sent, already have the Chinese, but to get a hard from there costs a lot ...
In the rest of the conversation, Padrón tells Blanco that they will build 7,000 soccer fields in China and that this comes to the Federation to send coaches there, which the COE president agrees because he sees it as a good option to employ the technicians.
The difficulty of collecting and withdrawing money from China is reflected in two talks between Juan Padrón and his daughter María in which she admits that she will have to bring 30,000 euros in cash from China. In the last one, on June 22, 2017, Maria Padrón describes to her father the operative to extract that cash money from China divided between her and four other people.
María Padrón: ... Nor is it normal that I have to bring the money with the four coaches and the doctor distributed ... you understand me? ... but it is the only way to collect it ... because it is not with a contract with Wang Hui but this is the money of the Shanghai people ... since they are government can not ... take money then we did through Wang Hui ... and do not let him take out Wang Hui. ..
Juan Padrón: And how much?
MP: thirty thousand five hundred and seventy-four ... but ...
JP: And now each brings less than ten thousand ...
MP: Six thousand, then we go ... yes, but that neither is but good ... I with such to charge it I do not care ...
JP: All right ...
MP: And it`s not like that either ... but we already know that for the next one.
Following this conversation, the researchers of the UCO conclude in their report: "It is striking and symptomatic of opacity in the management of commercial relations that an institution like the Royal Spanish Football Federation has to transfer cash from China by distributing it between several people ".
The relationship between the Federation and United Vansen is included in a complaint in the summary of Operation Soule. The first contract, signed in 2014, reported to the federal agency about 100,000 euros a year and included not only the sending of Spanish technicians to China, but also exclusivity clauses on the merchandising and image rights of the Spanish team, at that time very quoted to the still being the champion of the world and of Europe. The complaint reveals that the contract was very low. The research line is aimed at whether federal managers, family members or employees benefited directly or indirectly.
The Spanish Football Federation receives payments from the Chinese representative company United Vansen International through a Dutch team of its own, the ADO of The Hague. The strange monetary maneuver was detected by the Central Operative Unit (UCO) of the Civil Guard in several recorded conversations between the economic vice-president Juan Padrón, the president of the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE), Alejandro Blanco, María Padrón, daughter of the working director in the federative Foundation, and the secretary of the territorial region of Tenerife Ramón Hernández Baussou. According to the talks, the contract signed between the ETF and the Chinese company would be valued at 1,250,000 euros broken down into four years extendable to one more. United Vansen acquired the ADO of The Hague in 2014 and is governed by Chinese representative Wang Hui. This one was received by Angel Maria Villar in the federative seat in April of 2014, according to news published in the federative web and in which Hui is presented like exclusive agent of the Federation in China and part of Asia.
The first conversation, included in the summary of the Villar case, is of May 10, 2017 and happens between Juan Padrón and Ramón Baussou.
MORE INFORMATION
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More imputed federative in the case Villar
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Juan Padron: ... because tomorrow the Chinese arrive ... and ... how important ... we are with a million dollars ... that is already ... they are going to send the five hundred thousand through Holland because they can not take them out if it is not with a Dutch team.
Ramon Baussou: [Laughs].
JP: Yes ... five hundred thousand now and five hundred thousand later, but it`s already signed.
In that same conversation, Padrón, who is already aware that Villar will withdraw his trust as economic vice president, tells Bassou that he will go to the office to break papers and collect. In relation to this conversation, the researchers consider in their report that "it is considered strange in the first place that the money has to be transferred through a Dutch team".
The next call is May 16, 2017 and the interlocutors are Juan Padrón and Alejandro Blanco.
Juan Padrón: ... it was important the visit of these Chinese because ... we already took 300,000 euros from the exclusive and now a new one has been signed ... my daughter arguing with them, before they were 100,000 a year and now she took him out 250,000 per year (laughs).
Alejandro Blanco: cunt, very well ...
JP: four years is a million and a year more than 250,000 extension ... already signed a contract ... was ... to see when the money came, but also there the Chinese pa to let the money, put more stick to everything
AB: Man, of course, man, of course ...
JP: ... that they have bought a team in Holland ... and they are going to divert already ... to pay it through Holland and others, right?
AB: Well ...
JP: It was very interesting to say that because ... the Chinese are as they are, it`s tremendous, they do not have a stupid hair, but fuck it ...
AB: [Laughs].
JP: yes, yes ...
AB: The Chinese are very clever, very clever ...
JP: Síiiiiiii ... that already signed the contract, already sent, already have the Chinese, but to get a hard from there costs a lot ...
In the rest of the conversation, Padrón tells Blanco that they will build 7,000 soccer fields in China and that this comes to the Federation to send coaches there, which the COE president agrees because he sees it as a good option to employ the technicians.
The difficulty of collecting and withdrawing money from China is reflected in two talks between Juan Padrón and his daughter María in which she admits that she will have to bring 30,000 euros in cash from China. In the last one, on June 22, 2017, Maria Padrón describes to her father the operative to extract that cash money from China divided between her and four other people.
María Padrón: ... Nor is it normal that I have to bring the money with the four coaches and the doctor distributed ... you understand me? ... but it is the only way to collect it ... because it is not with a contract with Wang Hui but this is the money of the Shanghai people ... since they are government can not ... take money then we did through Wang Hui ... and do not let him take out Wang Hui. ..
Juan Padrón: And how much?
MP: thirty thousand five hundred and seventy-four ... but ...
JP: And now each brings less than ten thousand ...
MP: Six thousand, then we go ... yes, but that neither is but good ... I with such to charge it I do not care ...
JP: All right ...
MP: And it`s not like that either ... but we already know that for the next one.
Following this conversation, the researchers of the UCO conclude in their report: "It is striking and symptomatic of opacity in the management of commercial relations that an institution like the Royal Spanish Football Federation has to transfer cash from China by distributing it between several people ".
The relationship between the Federation and United Vansen is included in a complaint in the summary of Operation Soule. The first contract, signed in 2014, reported to the federal agency about 100,000 euros a year and included not only the sending of Spanish technicians to China, but also exclusivity clauses on the merchandising and image rights of the Spanish team, at that time very quoted to the still being the champion of the world and of Europe. The complaint reveals that the contract was very low. The research line is aimed at whether federal managers, family members or employees benefited directly or indirectly.
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Dinsdag 26 september 2017 om 10:49 uur |
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De Spaanse voetbalfederatie ontvangt betalingen van de Chinese vertegenwoordiger United Vansen International via een Nederlands team, de ADO van Den Haag. Het vreemde monetaire manoeuvre werd gedetecteerd door de Operative centrale eenheid (UCO) van de Guardia Civil in meerdere gesprekken opgenomen tussen economische vice president Juan Padrón, voorzitter van de Spaanse Olympische Comité (COE), Alejandro Blanco, Maria Padron, dochter van de manager die in de federatieve stichting, en de secretaris van het territoriale gebied van Tenerife Ramón Hernández Baussou. Volgens de gesprekken, het contract ondertekend tussen de ETF en het Chinese bedrijf zou worden gewaardeerd op 1.250.000 euro opgesplitst in vier jaar, verlengbaar één meer. United Vansen verwierf de ADO van Den Haag in 2014 en wordt geregeerd door Chinese vertegenwoordiger Wang Hui. Dit werd begroet door Ángel María Villar in de federale hoofdkantoor in april 2014, volgens het nieuwsagentschap gepubliceerd in het Federal web en die Hui presenteert als enige agent in China Federation of Azië.
Het eerste gesprek, opgenomen in de samenvatting van de zaak Villar, is de 10 mei 2017 en vindt plaats tussen Padrón en Juan Ramón Baussou.
Het eerste gesprek, opgenomen in de samenvatting van de zaak Villar, is de 10 mei 2017 en vindt plaats tussen Padrón en Juan Ramón Baussou.
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Dinsdag 26 september 2017 om 10:10 uur |
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gillah schreef:
Tjonge wat voel ik me nu beledigd zeg.
Ik schrik er van hoe slecht hij is, en vind hem zwaar uit de toon vallen bij alle andere aankopen en vraag me af hoe ze in hemelsnaam bij hem zijn uitgekomen. Jij niet dan?
Tjonge wat voel ik me nu beledigd zeg.
Ik schrik er van hoe slecht hij is, en vind hem zwaar uit de toon vallen bij alle andere aankopen en vraag me af hoe ze in hemelsnaam bij hem zijn uitgekomen. Jij niet dan?
Tja.... het is een spits waar ook ik moet wennen. Met zijn lengte zou je verwachten dat koppen geen probleem moet zijn. Bal aanname hetzelfde. Hoop dat hij er 15 inschiet maar heb het gevoel, ben geen trainer, dat hij echt wel iets van kwaliteit op dit niveau mist. Maar gun hem uiteraard het voordeel van MIJN twijfel en dat het team mogelijk nog moet wennen aan zijn aanwezigheid in het veld.
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Maandag 25 september 2017 om 18:11 uur |
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Kees
pajam
los schreef:
Die Johnson is ook wel een wandelend foutencircus. Veel dingen doet ie goed maar op de beslissende momenten gaat het steeds helemaal mis.
Prima wedstrijd van ADO, hoop wel meer El kayati te zien de komende tijd
Die Johnson is ook wel een wandelend foutencircus. Veel dingen doet ie goed maar op de beslissende momenten gaat het steeds helemaal mis.
Prima wedstrijd van ADO, hoop wel meer El kayati te zien de komende tijd
HEERLIJKE wedstrijd gezien, top atmosfeer! Jammer dat ik in een Feyenoord vak zat 
Johnson werkt hard, maar lijkt niet een killer als het op afmaken aankomt ; daar moeten we toch ook eerlijk in zijn.
Gorter vond ik de eerste 20 minuten bar slecht, maar herstelde zich goed.
Rest van het team speelde degelijk, El Khayati inderdaad wel weinig gezien.
Dit team, met de inzet wat ze tegen Ajax (thuis) en Feyenoord (Beker) hebben laten zien, moet deze lijn de komende 5 wedstrijden vasthouden en dan kan het een mooi seizoen gaan worden.
van As, TS ; BEDANKT!
Johnson werkt hard, maar lijkt niet een killer als het op afmaken aankomt ; daar moeten we toch ook eerlijk in zijn.
Gorter vond ik de eerste 20 minuten bar slecht, maar herstelde zich goed.
Rest van het team speelde degelijk, El Khayati inderdaad wel weinig gezien.
Dit team, met de inzet wat ze tegen Ajax (thuis) en Feyenoord (Beker) hebben laten zien, moet deze lijn de komende 5 wedstrijden vasthouden en dan kan het een mooi seizoen gaan worden.
van As, TS ; BEDANKT!
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Donderdag 21 september 2017 om 07:51 uur |
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Bolskie
supporter-noord schreef:
In het storen van de opbouw wel maar aanvallend slecht.
In het storen van de opbouw wel maar aanvallend slecht.
Vind dat je ze daarmee echt tekort doet door te zeggen alleen in het verstoren van de opbouw. Gewoon als team speelde ze goed druk zetten doe je namelijk met heel het team niet alleen de 3 voorin. Daarin tegen hebben ze ook prima verdedigt en is gewoon zonde dat el kahati nu 2 wedstrijden ondermaats speelt want die paar procent wat hij meer kan brengen kan voor ons een wedstrijd beslissen.
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Woensdag 20 september 2017 om 23:16 uur |
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Petah
supporter-noord schreef:
klopt, maar soms lijkt het wel of hij zn pupillentijd heeft overgeslagen. Rare keuzes die hij af en toe maakt, maar ik zie hem niet al te veel doelpunten maken dit seizoen.
Kansen genoeg vandaag, leuk hoor dat ze het goed in het storen van de opbouw bij Feijenoord hebben gedaan, nu alleen nog goed aanvallen leren en kansen afmaken. Weinig voorzetten gezien en corners waren er al helemaal niet.
Feijenoord keeper heeft eigenlijk niks te doen gehad.
klopt, maar soms lijkt het wel of hij zn pupillentijd heeft overgeslagen. Rare keuzes die hij af en toe maakt, maar ik zie hem niet al te veel doelpunten maken dit seizoen.
Kansen genoeg vandaag, leuk hoor dat ze het goed in het storen van de opbouw bij Feijenoord hebben gedaan, nu alleen nog goed aanvallen leren en kansen afmaken. Weinig voorzetten gezien en corners waren er al helemaal niet.
Feijenoord keeper heeft eigenlijk niks te doen gehad.
Ik zeg dat ie er minimaal 10 maakt maar hij mits heel veel slimheid en gogme eigenlijk zie je dst hij heeft leren voetballen in de vs team speler ijverig etc body
Maar mizt vernuft koelheid en afronding
Maar mizt vernuft koelheid en afronding
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Woensdag 20 september 2017 om 22:55 uur |
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jajoh
Victor schreef:
Triest figuur jij. Support your team loser!
Triest figuur jij. Support your team loser!
typisch de supporter van tegenwoordig, altijd blijven lachen, support our team blablabla. IEDEREEN kan toch zien dat we GEEN spits hebben??!! IEDEREEN kan toch zien dat die Lorenzen nog geen pepernoot kan raken?/!! Maar waar vroeger wij als supporters ALTIJD achter de ploeg stonden, ook door ze af en toe tot op de enkels af te branden maar ze ook de hemel in prijzen als het goed ging, mag je tegenwoordig blijkbaar niets meer zeggen als het om eigen spelers gaat. Pleur toch op man. Den haag is mijn club, kom al ruim 30 jaar. En als ik wil zeiken op spelers die NIETS presteren dan doe ik dat. Maar om jouw blij te maken blijf ik wel achter het team staan, zo ben ik....
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Woensdag 20 september 2017 om 22:45 uur |
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Victor
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