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Tikki Takka
Mahi uit de gratie bij FC Groningen, laat maar lekker terug naar Den Haag komen in de winterstop, op fietsie naar stadion, lekker toch?
Klinkt nu natuurlijk een beetje raar weet ik wel doorlopend contract enz., maar laten we eerlijk zijn Kishna naar ADO hadden we toch ook nooit gedacht?
Fons weet wel raad met `lastige` jochies, Mahi als kerstcadeautje van UVS?
Klinkt nu natuurlijk een beetje raar weet ik wel doorlopend contract enz., maar laten we eerlijk zijn Kishna naar ADO hadden we toch ook nooit gedacht?
Fons weet wel raad met `lastige` jochies, Mahi als kerstcadeautje van UVS?
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Maandag 23 oktober 2017 om 21:36 uur |
Kees
Vlakko
Ronaldo schreef:
Doordat je geen idee hebt, kun je er geen oordeel over hebben. Waar gewerkt wordt vallen spaanders. Maar ik denk persoonlijk dat je het bij Kasteneer moet zoeken. Het blijft natuurlijk een goede voetballer.
Doordat je geen idee hebt, kun je er geen oordeel over hebben. Waar gewerkt wordt vallen spaanders. Maar ik denk persoonlijk dat je het bij Kasteneer moet zoeken. Het blijft natuurlijk een goede voetballer.
Mee eens hoor.
Maar ik denk dat je als club of manager daar boven moet staan en iets voor elkaar moet krijgen zeker als het je transferwaarde vertegenwoordigd na jarenlange investering daarin.
Nu loopt iemand transfervrij de deur uit en hou je er niets aan over.
Wat het ook is of was. Creatief kunnen we bij ADO altijd zijn wijst ook het Kanon contract weer uit. Dus wat het ook is er was vast een oplossing mogelijk als je echt wil.
Dat is meer mijn punt.
Maar ik denk dat je als club of manager daar boven moet staan en iets voor elkaar moet krijgen zeker als het je transferwaarde vertegenwoordigd na jarenlange investering daarin.
Nu loopt iemand transfervrij de deur uit en hou je er niets aan over.
Wat het ook is of was. Creatief kunnen we bij ADO altijd zijn wijst ook het Kanon contract weer uit. Dus wat het ook is er was vast een oplossing mogelijk als je echt wil.
Dat is meer mijn punt.
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Woensdag 11 oktober 2017 om 20:52 uur |
pajam
FC Den Haag! schreef:
Zullen ze ook de contracten van Zwinkels, Meijers en Beugelsdijk nog willen verlengen? Van Meijers weet ik alleen niet of hij daar voor open staat. Heeft volgens mij al wel laten doorschemeren nog is een buitenlands avontuur aan te willen gaan.
Zullen ze ook de contracten van Zwinkels, Meijers en Beugelsdijk nog willen verlengen? Van Meijers weet ik alleen niet of hij daar voor open staat. Heeft volgens mij al wel laten doorschemeren nog is een buitenlands avontuur aan te willen gaan.
Persoonlijk verwacht ik dat Bakker, Beugelsdijk én Meijers er niet voor open staan.
Meijers wilt nog wel een klapper maken (inderdaad zoals jij zegt, heeft ie dat in een interview min of meer aangegeven), Beugelsdijk speelt weer prima en zou nog één keer een stap willen wagen & Bakker was bij de vorige verlenging ronde al in de waan dattie beter kon![](https://www.clubachterdeduinen.nl/media/images/smileys/smile.gif)
Zwinkels en de club bekijken het volgens mij verder van jaar op jaar, maar wat mij betreft krijgt ie gewoon een contract van 3 jaar, met optie om in de staf opgenomen te worden?
Meijers wilt nog wel een klapper maken (inderdaad zoals jij zegt, heeft ie dat in een interview min of meer aangegeven), Beugelsdijk speelt weer prima en zou nog één keer een stap willen wagen & Bakker was bij de vorige verlenging ronde al in de waan dattie beter kon
![](https://www.clubachterdeduinen.nl/media/images/smileys/smile.gif)
Zwinkels en de club bekijken het volgens mij verder van jaar op jaar, maar wat mij betreft krijgt ie gewoon een contract van 3 jaar, met optie om in de staf opgenomen te worden?
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Woensdag 4 oktober 2017 om 09:14 uur |
Club Achter de Duinen
Nieuwsbericht op Club Achter de Duinen:
ADO doet Ebuehi aanbieding
Het contract van Tyronne Ebuehi loopt komende zomer af.
Lees het nieuwsbericht
ADO doet Ebuehi aanbieding
Het contract van Tyronne Ebuehi loopt komende zomer af.
Lees het nieuwsbericht
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Dinsdag 3 oktober 2017 om 23:32 uur |
pajam
Barend schreef:
Bakker liet zich niet zo lang geleden ontvallen dat hij "hogerop" wil. Kan me wel voorstellen dat je op een gegeven moment niet tot "het meubilair" wilt gaan horen.
Bakker liet zich niet zo lang geleden ontvallen dat hij "hogerop" wil. Kan me wel voorstellen dat je op een gegeven moment niet tot "het meubilair" wilt gaan horen.
Daarom moeten we spelers ook tijdig verlengen óf verkopen.
Denk inderdaad dat een Bakker, Beugelsdijk, Meijers volgend jaar niet meer bij ons spelen. Hebben ze ook niet alledrie een aflopend contract?
Denk inderdaad dat een Bakker, Beugelsdijk, Meijers volgend jaar niet meer bij ons spelen. Hebben ze ook niet alledrie een aflopend contract?
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Dinsdag 3 oktober 2017 om 13:56 uur |
jamesjones
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Villar, following the departure of a UEFA executive committee in Basel. FABRICE COFFRINI AFP / Getty Images
The Spanish Football Federation receives payments from the Chinese representative company United Vansen International through a Dutch team of its own, the ADO of The Hague. The strange monetary maneuver was detected by the Central Operative Unit (UCO) of the Civil Guard in several recorded conversations between the economic vice-president Juan Padrón, the president of the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE), Alejandro Blanco, María Padrón, daughter of the working director in the federative Foundation, and the secretary of the territorial region of Tenerife Ramón Hernández Baussou. According to the talks, the contract signed between the ETF and the Chinese company would be valued at 1,250,000 euros broken down into four years extendable to one more. United Vansen acquired the ADO of The Hague in 2014 and is governed by Chinese representative Wang Hui. This one was received by Angel Maria Villar in the federative seat in April of 2014, according to news published in the federative web and in which Hui is presented like exclusive agent of the Federation in China and part of Asia.
The first conversation, included in the summary of the Villar case, is of May 10, 2017 and happens between Juan Padrón and Ramón Baussou.
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Juan Padron: ... because tomorrow the Chinese arrive ... and ... how important ... we are with a million dollars ... that is already ... they are going to send the five hundred thousand through Holland because they can not take them out if it is not with a Dutch team.
Ramon Baussou: [Laughs].
JP: Yes ... five hundred thousand now and five hundred thousand later, but it`s already signed.
In that same conversation, Padrón, who is already aware that Villar will withdraw his trust as economic vice president, tells Bassou that he will go to the office to break papers and collect. In relation to this conversation, the researchers consider in their report that "it is considered strange in the first place that the money has to be transferred through a Dutch team".
The next call is May 16, 2017 and the interlocutors are Juan Padrón and Alejandro Blanco.
Juan Padrón: ... it was important the visit of these Chinese because ... we already took 300,000 euros from the exclusive and now a new one has been signed ... my daughter arguing with them, before they were 100,000 a year and now she took him out 250,000 per year (laughs).
Alejandro Blanco: cunt, very well ...
JP: four years is a million and a year more than 250,000 extension ... already signed a contract ... was ... to see when the money came, but also there the Chinese pa to let the money, put more stick to everything
AB: Man, of course, man, of course ...
JP: ... that they have bought a team in Holland ... and they are going to divert already ... to pay it through Holland and others, right?
AB: Well ...
JP: It was very interesting to say that because ... the Chinese are as they are, it`s tremendous, they do not have a stupid hair, but fuck it ...
AB: [Laughs].
JP: yes, yes ...
AB: The Chinese are very clever, very clever ...
JP: Síiiiiiii ... that already signed the contract, already sent, already have the Chinese, but to get a hard from there costs a lot ...
In the rest of the conversation, Padrón tells Blanco that they will build 7,000 soccer fields in China and that this comes to the Federation to send coaches there, which the COE president agrees because he sees it as a good option to employ the technicians.
The difficulty of collecting and withdrawing money from China is reflected in two talks between Juan Padrón and his daughter María in which she admits that she will have to bring 30,000 euros in cash from China. In the last one, on June 22, 2017, Maria Padrón describes to her father the operative to extract that cash money from China divided between her and four other people.
María Padrón: ... Nor is it normal that I have to bring the money with the four coaches and the doctor distributed ... you understand me? ... but it is the only way to collect it ... because it is not with a contract with Wang Hui but this is the money of the Shanghai people ... since they are government can not ... take money then we did through Wang Hui ... and do not let him take out Wang Hui. ..
Juan Padrón: And how much?
MP: thirty thousand five hundred and seventy-four ... but ...
JP: And now each brings less than ten thousand ...
MP: Six thousand, then we go ... yes, but that neither is but good ... I with such to charge it I do not care ...
JP: All right ...
MP: And it`s not like that either ... but we already know that for the next one.
Following this conversation, the researchers of the UCO conclude in their report: "It is striking and symptomatic of opacity in the management of commercial relations that an institution like the Royal Spanish Football Federation has to transfer cash from China by distributing it between several people ".
The relationship between the Federation and United Vansen is included in a complaint in the summary of Operation Soule. The first contract, signed in 2014, reported to the federal agency about 100,000 euros a year and included not only the sending of Spanish technicians to China, but also exclusivity clauses on the merchandising and image rights of the Spanish team, at that time very quoted to the still being the champion of the world and of Europe. The complaint reveals that the contract was very low. The research line is aimed at whether federal managers, family members or employees benefited directly or indirectly.
The Spanish Football Federation receives payments from the Chinese representative company United Vansen International through a Dutch team of its own, the ADO of The Hague. The strange monetary maneuver was detected by the Central Operative Unit (UCO) of the Civil Guard in several recorded conversations between the economic vice-president Juan Padrón, the president of the Spanish Olympic Committee (COE), Alejandro Blanco, María Padrón, daughter of the working director in the federative Foundation, and the secretary of the territorial region of Tenerife Ramón Hernández Baussou. According to the talks, the contract signed between the ETF and the Chinese company would be valued at 1,250,000 euros broken down into four years extendable to one more. United Vansen acquired the ADO of The Hague in 2014 and is governed by Chinese representative Wang Hui. This one was received by Angel Maria Villar in the federative seat in April of 2014, according to news published in the federative web and in which Hui is presented like exclusive agent of the Federation in China and part of Asia.
The first conversation, included in the summary of the Villar case, is of May 10, 2017 and happens between Juan Padrón and Ramón Baussou.
MORE INFORMATION
Villar wanted to use two judges to save himself from the Haiti case
More imputed federative in the case Villar
A house that Villar bought in Altea, under suspicion
Juan Padron: ... because tomorrow the Chinese arrive ... and ... how important ... we are with a million dollars ... that is already ... they are going to send the five hundred thousand through Holland because they can not take them out if it is not with a Dutch team.
Ramon Baussou: [Laughs].
JP: Yes ... five hundred thousand now and five hundred thousand later, but it`s already signed.
In that same conversation, Padrón, who is already aware that Villar will withdraw his trust as economic vice president, tells Bassou that he will go to the office to break papers and collect. In relation to this conversation, the researchers consider in their report that "it is considered strange in the first place that the money has to be transferred through a Dutch team".
The next call is May 16, 2017 and the interlocutors are Juan Padrón and Alejandro Blanco.
Juan Padrón: ... it was important the visit of these Chinese because ... we already took 300,000 euros from the exclusive and now a new one has been signed ... my daughter arguing with them, before they were 100,000 a year and now she took him out 250,000 per year (laughs).
Alejandro Blanco: cunt, very well ...
JP: four years is a million and a year more than 250,000 extension ... already signed a contract ... was ... to see when the money came, but also there the Chinese pa to let the money, put more stick to everything
AB: Man, of course, man, of course ...
JP: ... that they have bought a team in Holland ... and they are going to divert already ... to pay it through Holland and others, right?
AB: Well ...
JP: It was very interesting to say that because ... the Chinese are as they are, it`s tremendous, they do not have a stupid hair, but fuck it ...
AB: [Laughs].
JP: yes, yes ...
AB: The Chinese are very clever, very clever ...
JP: Síiiiiiii ... that already signed the contract, already sent, already have the Chinese, but to get a hard from there costs a lot ...
In the rest of the conversation, Padrón tells Blanco that they will build 7,000 soccer fields in China and that this comes to the Federation to send coaches there, which the COE president agrees because he sees it as a good option to employ the technicians.
The difficulty of collecting and withdrawing money from China is reflected in two talks between Juan Padrón and his daughter María in which she admits that she will have to bring 30,000 euros in cash from China. In the last one, on June 22, 2017, Maria Padrón describes to her father the operative to extract that cash money from China divided between her and four other people.
María Padrón: ... Nor is it normal that I have to bring the money with the four coaches and the doctor distributed ... you understand me? ... but it is the only way to collect it ... because it is not with a contract with Wang Hui but this is the money of the Shanghai people ... since they are government can not ... take money then we did through Wang Hui ... and do not let him take out Wang Hui. ..
Juan Padrón: And how much?
MP: thirty thousand five hundred and seventy-four ... but ...
JP: And now each brings less than ten thousand ...
MP: Six thousand, then we go ... yes, but that neither is but good ... I with such to charge it I do not care ...
JP: All right ...
MP: And it`s not like that either ... but we already know that for the next one.
Following this conversation, the researchers of the UCO conclude in their report: "It is striking and symptomatic of opacity in the management of commercial relations that an institution like the Royal Spanish Football Federation has to transfer cash from China by distributing it between several people ".
The relationship between the Federation and United Vansen is included in a complaint in the summary of Operation Soule. The first contract, signed in 2014, reported to the federal agency about 100,000 euros a year and included not only the sending of Spanish technicians to China, but also exclusivity clauses on the merchandising and image rights of the Spanish team, at that time very quoted to the still being the champion of the world and of Europe. The complaint reveals that the contract was very low. The research line is aimed at whether federal managers, family members or employees benefited directly or indirectly.
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Dinsdag 26 september 2017 om 10:49 uur |
muisie
De Spaanse voetbalfederatie ontvangt betalingen van de Chinese vertegenwoordiger United Vansen International via een Nederlands team, de ADO van Den Haag. Het vreemde monetaire manoeuvre werd gedetecteerd door de Operative centrale eenheid (UCO) van de Guardia Civil in meerdere gesprekken opgenomen tussen economische vice president Juan Padrón, voorzitter van de Spaanse Olympische Comité (COE), Alejandro Blanco, Maria Padron, dochter van de manager die in de federatieve stichting, en de secretaris van het territoriale gebied van Tenerife Ramón Hernández Baussou. Volgens de gesprekken, het contract ondertekend tussen de ETF en het Chinese bedrijf zou worden gewaardeerd op 1.250.000 euro opgesplitst in vier jaar, verlengbaar één meer. United Vansen verwierf de ADO van Den Haag in 2014 en wordt geregeerd door Chinese vertegenwoordiger Wang Hui. Dit werd begroet door Ángel María Villar in de federale hoofdkantoor in april 2014, volgens het nieuwsagentschap gepubliceerd in het Federal web en die Hui presenteert als enige agent in China Federation of Azië.
Het eerste gesprek, opgenomen in de samenvatting van de zaak Villar, is de 10 mei 2017 en vindt plaats tussen Padrón en Juan Ramón Baussou.
Het eerste gesprek, opgenomen in de samenvatting van de zaak Villar, is de 10 mei 2017 en vindt plaats tussen Padrón en Juan Ramón Baussou.
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Dinsdag 26 september 2017 om 10:10 uur |
Club Achter de Duinen
Nieuwsbericht op Club Achter de Duinen:
Ricardo Kishna mogelijk jaar extra bij ADO
Ricardo Kishna staat mogelijk ook volgend jaar onder contract bij ADO Den Haag.
Lees het nieuwsbericht
Ricardo Kishna mogelijk jaar extra bij ADO
Ricardo Kishna staat mogelijk ook volgend jaar onder contract bij ADO Den Haag.
Lees het nieuwsbericht
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